Lakes Line Timetable

Northern's timetable changed on 9th December.  In fact very little has changed, both because Northern is still recovering from its meltdown in the summer, and also many of the problems which meant they couldn't run the proposed May timetable are still around.  The timetable is part of booklet 6, which you can find at:


and scroll down to route 06, current timetable.

If your journey is affected by a cancellation of a train or replacement bus, please let us know (info@llrug.co.uk).  If possible, please also send a copy to Community Rail Cumbria :


who will make sure it reaches the Lakes Line CRP.  If you also copy in Northern's Contact Centre (enquiries@northernrailway.co.uk) then it makes sure they know about the disruption being caused.

Electrification pulled

LLRUG continues to press for the electrification, and we are not alone.  The CRP, Cumbria Tourism, County Council, the Local Enterprise Partnership and many other bodies want this too. Though Chris Jackson, Regional Director West, assured us at the AGM that the new class 195 diesels will offer the same facilities as the electric trains originally planned, we are still disappointed.  Apart from anything else, it hardly seems environmentally sound to send a diesel train on a180 mile (or thereabouts) round trip, from Manchester Airport to Windermere and back, pushing of CO2 and other exhaust gases, when 160 miles of the trip are under the wires.

On 19th September talks at ACAS to find a solution to the dispute between Northern and the RMT over the role
of conductors broke down.  RMT then announced the series of Saturday strikes which will continue till January 2019, with the result that there will be much reduced train service from Northern. Recently the DfT and Transport for the North backed the call to keep a second crew member on trains, but we understand the RMT is looking for more assurances about what its members doing this job will be responsible for.
There may be changes from one Saturday to the next, so the advice is to check on Northern's website (https://www.northernrailway.co.uk/strike) and scroll down to 'timetables'.  You want N38 for the Lakes Line.
The timetable for 12th January 2019 shows both buses and trains will run on this days. 
On its home page (https://www.northernrailway.co.uk/) you can find Northern's recent announcements about what it has offered to the RMT in efforts to settle the dispute.  To read the RMT's views, go to https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/

 The Winter Bulletin is now available.  To make sure of your copy, join the Group using the membership form on this website.

 Oxenholme Station car parks.

 Virgin Trains will be installing Automatic Number Plate Recognition equipment at their car parks at Oxenholme from 10th October.  

The work had not been finished yet by mid-November, and the old ticket system will apply till it is.

Disappointed schoolchildren

Local residents may well have heard of the problem on Friday 12th October, when a group of 60 primary school children from Windermere could not make their planned journey to Staveley, part of a WW2 history project.  They were in period costume, and some parents, also costumed, had come to wave them off as if they were being evacuated.  Unfortunately they were disappointed to find their train did not run due to lack of a conductor and despite an offer of bus transport from Stagecoach, they returned to school.

LLRUG is trying to find out just why this good idea went wrong.  We know that a lot of Northern staff were not in their normal places that morning because of a track problem in Manchester, so there was much hurried rearrangement of staff, but we feel that Northern should have tried much harder to make sure that this train did run.  It's no way to encourage greater use of the railway.

Collecting tickets bought on line

If you buy tickets using your computer, you can collect them at Kendal or Burneside, and no doubt eventually at Staveley when the ticket machine there is finally installed.  Don't be put off when you can't find Burneside or Kendal in the list of stations, it's just that they haven't been added yet; apparently the train companies only use the station name you choose for some statistic or other.  If you leave the box blank it doesn't matter.

 Updated 8th January2019





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